Code Geass; Hangyaku no Lelouch
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This was Sunrise's holdover between the end of Gundam Seed Destiny and the begining of Gundam 00 (which is in 3 days), and it doesn't seem like your basic run of the mill Mobile Suit #32624635748 clone.
I'm on episode 10 right now, and I've got to say, they've handled things very well so far. Especially because the Mobile Suits take a back seat and the main one story wise is controlled by a secondary character. You can sort of SEE that the writer knew what he was doing when he put this story out among the rest of the Mobile Suit run of the mill stories.
Like. It's a Mobile Suit anime that doesn't really deal with Mobile Suits. Brilliance. What it does deal with is a very good design regarding Code Geass and some Darwininan ideas vs. Common Sense, Justice from different points of view, etc.
Very good so far.
I'm on episode 10 right now, and I've got to say, they've handled things very well so far. Especially because the Mobile Suits take a back seat and the main one story wise is controlled by a secondary character. You can sort of SEE that the writer knew what he was doing when he put this story out among the rest of the Mobile Suit run of the mill stories.
Like. It's a Mobile Suit anime that doesn't really deal with Mobile Suits. Brilliance. What it does deal with is a very good design regarding Code Geass and some Darwininan ideas vs. Common Sense, Justice from different points of view, etc.
Very good so far.
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The Emperror is pretty damn awesome I loved it when he stood up going "What of it?!" and Lelouch fell over.
The anime has a lot of cliche's, but they're all tied together so nicely it becomes awesome
The anime has a lot of cliche's, but they're all tied together so nicely it becomes awesome
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Awesome. I really miss the older Gundam series where the main characters weren't put in invincible gundams. If this series has more of a focus on plot and character development, then I'm definitely going to catch up on this.BlackDove wrote: Like. It's a Mobile Suit anime that doesn't really deal with Mobile Suits.
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Don't really see what you're talking about there, since I didn't really catch any similarities past the settings, which usually need to be acceptable to everyone to eliminate the alienation of the viewer and force them to make comparisons.Dodotorpedo wrote:The Emperror is pretty damn awesome I loved it when he stood up going "What of it?!" and Lelouch fell over.
The anime has a lot of cliche's, but they're all tied together so nicely it becomes awesome
At any rate, this is the first anime I have seen to date where the main character isn't a goody two-shoes morally justified asshole and I have to say that I loved every minute of it, especially when it started rocking out three episodes from the end, All in all, this was some pretty great stuff. They emulated reality as best possible. The innocent and the good are bound to die the soonest, it's only the ones with permanent and planned ambitions that prevail, doomed to live out heir lives with their conscience afterwards.
A very VERY good story, not done before (at least I haven't seen an anime where the main character is a circumstantially evil <censored>).
Can't wait to see the sequel.
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On the fourth episode now and I'm loving it.
Definitely love the main character who as BD says isn't the usual Mr. Nice Guy. Sort of reminds me of Death Note (the main character).
Thanks for the recommendation. You've just cost me another few nights of sleep
Definitely love the main character who as BD says isn't the usual Mr. Nice Guy. Sort of reminds me of Death Note (the main character).
Thanks for the recommendation. You've just cost me another few nights of sleep
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I'm not a big fan of nice guy main characters succeeding at everything either . I love Light's and Lulu's characters. If we want to see things moving we gotta take some action! I wasn't too pleased with Suzaku though, he's such a do-goody neutral naive guy but coincidence just happen to be supporting him the entire time, though his super human speed and reflexes helped (0.05 second delay? np), but that's all fine in the end since it's cool to have somewone representing his stance (changing the system instead of downright destroying and rebuilding it like Lelouche) in the whole story aswell.Futile Resistance wrote:
Definitely love the main character who as BD says isn't the usual Mr. Nice Guy. Sort of reminds me of Death Note (the main character).
Also, I godda say that the directing of the show is very good, the scene placement and swapping between them and everything, they really manage to keep you glued to the edge of your seet in anticipaton though the whole episode.
Can't wait for the next season.
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I just started watching this recently. A very interesting anime. A few people I know, compare this to Death Note, as the main character are apparently similar in their eyes. I disagree with that sentiment. I found Lelouch to be a far more compelling character, with his motivations far less inane than those by the lead in Death Note. As far as I am concerned, its like comparing apples and oranges.
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It's similar in the fact that the antagonist is the protagonist. There aren't many of those out there. Usually the protagonist is some altruistic bitch, or a boy that needs to grow up. In that sense, it's like Death Note.
They also share the fact that their biggest strength is their intelligence, and that they have been gifted with a supernatural power which they utilize to their end.
They do have similarities.
They also share the fact that their biggest strength is their intelligence, and that they have been gifted with a supernatural power which they utilize to their end.
They do have similarities.
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Just spend two and a half days of watching this anime and I finally finished it. I really liked this anime a lot. It is real nice to see a mecha anime where the mechs are secondary characters at best. The plot of this really moved well throughout the series. I do have a couple of issues here and there, as there were some minor 'hiccups' to an otherwise fantastic series, but overall I found this to be quite enjoyable.
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Good. Just don't watch the second season - where they place the emphasis on Mechs
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Ah, I still liked the second season well enough. Emphasis is definitely given, though.
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Btw, they're probably going to do an R3.
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As I said I watched the complete anime. I don't agree with you that the mechs are put into the forefront in the second season. I still think of them as secondary characters.Futile Resistance wrote:Good. Just don't watch the second season - where they place the emphasis on Mechs
And BD that is interesting that they are possibly doing another season.
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This is....probably the best thing I've ever watched. I literally haven't put it down since starting it, and I've just finished it. The focus definately shifts more to the Mech side of things in Season 2, but not as much as it tries to make you think. The OPs are very unrepresentative for R2, and I'm not sure that they were put together in the same.....mindset that the Season 1 ones where tbh. They seem to focus almost exclusively on the Mechs, and at the end of it all the Mechs really meant nothing - the characters drove it all completely. The decision to introduce more 'Super-Mechs' (as it were) was made for R2, yes, but at the end of the day they never really came to the forefront as the driving theme, never really challenged for any other role than a means to add more pieces to the chess board.
So many aspects of the show hit the spot for me. I've never seen a lead character like this before, or a rivalry for that matter, nor a show that bases itself so much off the concept of betrayal and shifting pieces on an ever more murky chessboard where pieces can and do change their sides, and they were all perfectly suited to my tastes and done superbly. It was perfect as far as I'm concerned, and I'll be keeping it for a long time to come most likely. I said it to BD the other day in IRC, 00 can move over - this has pretty much crushed it for me. If I dont like any other series, this one has probably made it worth all his pestering to get me to watch (and keep me watching) anime in the first place
So many aspects of the show hit the spot for me. I've never seen a lead character like this before, or a rivalry for that matter, nor a show that bases itself so much off the concept of betrayal and shifting pieces on an ever more murky chessboard where pieces can and do change their sides, and they were all perfectly suited to my tastes and done superbly. It was perfect as far as I'm concerned, and I'll be keeping it for a long time to come most likely. I said it to BD the other day in IRC, 00 can move over - this has pretty much crushed it for me. If I dont like any other series, this one has probably made it worth all his pestering to get me to watch (and keep me watching) anime in the first place
"Perhaps this is what I have always wished for since that day. The loss and destruction of all. That's right, one must destroy before creating. In that case, if my conscience becomes a hindrance to me, then I will simply erase it. I have no other choice but to move forward....therefore!" - Lelouch vi Britannia/Zero, Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
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I am still standing firm that the mechs are secondary even in season two. I think they could very much tell a very similar story in a more mechless modern era. I couldn't do that with lets say, Seed. Because in a Gundam franchise the characters are the mechs for the most part. Here in Geass the characters are the people, and the people just happen to drive walking battle tanks. To me, the "super" mechs in R2 were just the logical progression of things to address some of the R1 developments.
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Anubis wrote:blah blah blah
This could've simply been summed up with the statement: "Anubis likey story where evil protagonist takes over world"
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Shush you, else I'll unleash the rabid BD after youStracius wrote:This could've simply been summed up with the statement: "Anubis likey story where evil protagonist takes over world"
"Perhaps this is what I have always wished for since that day. The loss and destruction of all. That's right, one must destroy before creating. In that case, if my conscience becomes a hindrance to me, then I will simply erase it. I have no other choice but to move forward....therefore!" - Lelouch vi Britannia/Zero, Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
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I personally think you guys are way off base there.
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Fenavian wrote:I personally think you guys are way off base there.
"Perhaps this is what I have always wished for since that day. The loss and destruction of all. That's right, one must destroy before creating. In that case, if my conscience becomes a hindrance to me, then I will simply erase it. I have no other choice but to move forward....therefore!" - Lelouch vi Britannia/Zero, Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
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I guess our definitions of good and evil differ.
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Do the ends justify the means? etc etc etc
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Yeah, I think that's the question the series most poses at the end of it all. Leaves it open to two very different kinds of interpretation, which is a good thing.Futile Resistance wrote:Do the ends justify the means? etc etc etc
"Perhaps this is what I have always wished for since that day. The loss and destruction of all. That's right, one must destroy before creating. In that case, if my conscience becomes a hindrance to me, then I will simply erase it. I have no other choice but to move forward....therefore!" - Lelouch vi Britannia/Zero, Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
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