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Think Babalawo may go into hibernation

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:02 pm

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So, I've been messing about with WotLK for the past week and am fast approaching 72. Ran Kara with the group last night - was most cool to be running with so many SSX about.
But...
Went to play for a bit today and had a realization as I was going through the motions...

I cant get past the fact that this is the EXACT same game I was getting a bit drained on. Sure there's new talents, sure there's the rune system, but all the PvE stuff is effectively the same, just in a different area. The class mechanics are still quite unbalanced - my shammy's favorite hobby is STILL getting his ass handed to him on a plate by players a level or two lower than he is. The PvP is still the same PvP with the same maps and same mechanics, complete with an abundance of rogues running amok and dominating the game while the Alliance players simply winge, moan, quit during the battles and generally suck. The Instances, though looking different, still play the same mechanics (heal the tank, stand here, go here, we know this fight so on the count of 3 do this then move here).

All in all, its an extension of the things I was getting tired and frustrated with.

Think I'm going to shift over to Warhammer for my RPG fixes. Its a bit darker and the multiple character improvement options are quite refreshing. Like the public quests, like the fact that there's loads of new race and class options, like the fact that you have to research your own recipes and whatnot. All in all, its more what I'm looking for in a game - I find it refreshing and fun.

I'll probably bounce into WoW a couple of times this week to clear up some of my character stuff and maybe advance to level 72 in case I decide on a permanent end and decide to pass the account on. If I make that decision I'll do a /gq before I hand it over.

Made a lot of new friends in this game and realized the only reason I'm hanging on to playing it is to cruise with you guys, but I'm not enjoying the game itself, just the company.

I'll still be cruising the boards, playing Warhammer and Cyber Nations and keeping in touch via Vent and IRC.

Cheers guys and gals.

Oz
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:16 am

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that's pretty much what i thought would happen in this expansion.
Nowhere in hell i'm buying WotLK :)


anyone that does still likes this game?
enjoy!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:16 pm

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Its been pretty fun so far.
But on that same note I don't play a Ele shaman (sorry OZ).

Negatives of WotLK so far:

- More of the same, ie. More grinding, more rep, more farming, more run this fetch this and that quests...
- No free month for buying the Expac (this is just a lame move because they can).
- Only 1 new class. Its been 4 YEARS and blizz only comes out with 1 new class.
- Game is still 10000000000000% gear dependant. Levels mean very little in WoW. Gear starts at green, then blue, then moves to the actually trying to compete tier/season series T/S .5 purple, then S1/T1 all the way up to S4/T7 purples.
- Horrible Char Class balance. Some classes transfered over to the new Expac talents and powers well and others did not (for instance Ele Shamans :smack: ). Some can level well in pvp gear and others need pve gear making them vulnerable to getting ganked.

Positives of WotLK so far:
- Deathknight hero class. Cool starting area/storyline, cool look, fun to play, plus comes with: Full blue set, epic mount, rune crafting (enhancement) class skill, new rune/runepower casting system and starts at lvl 55 (you are actually like lvl 58 after leaving the DK starting area).
- New powers and talents for all classes. Some classes really made out like a bandit and feel Wik'd Powerful (I lucked out in this department).
- New PvP mechanics and Seige like battlezones.
- New Inscription / Glyph stuff for more personal tailoring your playstyle options.
- Lots of UI/streamline/playstyle improvements.
- More of the same. Its good and bad. Having more things to do and see like new areas and quests, cutscenes and decent evolving story is enjoyable, at least for now.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:50 pm

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Sorry your Shaman is having such a ruff time Oz.
Your not the only one either, did some digging and Shamans in general are the least played class atm
and Ele spec Shamans are having a horribly ruff time with teh new Expac :(
It appears the correct answer for leveling the new expac for shamans is Enh (solo) or Resto (group).


I myself have been playing 3 (well 4 if you count the DK) classes and all three are ridiculously powerful atm.
Rogue, Priest and Druid.
Now as I mentioned WoW is a gear dependent game and I have THE gear, so that mixed with the new talents and powers have been impressive.

As you already know Rogues with level 80 talents.... well...
kill just about everyone that isn't a plate wearer.
On that same note, this is true in most MMO's that have an assassin class.
1v1 assassins usually win and get to initiate the fight, but are weak in Group vs Group. How powerful rogues are realistically in group fights in the WotLK remains to be seen atm.
FYI: when Burning Crusade came out, rogues in groups SUCKED.
For nearly a year in 5v5 rogues got pwn'd soo bad there were less then 2% over rank 2k... Then Bliz finally got around to giving rogues shadowstep and cheatdeath to help out (now if ele shamans could just get the same love).

Looking at the bare talents and powers I did not think my priest was getting all that much love until I actually seen her in action.
The new SPR/INT MP5 conversion, mixed with the new haste and spellpower system and lets not forget the ease of leveling tailoring has... well.. made her a rediculously powerful healer.
My MP5 averages between 700-800 with +1200k-1300k spellpower...
Did I happen to mention she is lvl 71? 1.3k heal ticks with 13K greater healz and never running out of mana is insane. :cool:

Druids, I can't lie, are just mad overpowered leveling.
The new spellpower has made it so that ALL balance and resto gear benefits BOTH specs now.
Balance gear used to be silly hard to put together, but now that my S3&4 resto gear converted over to balance gear and has new lvl 80 talents... my Boomkin is just siiick...
For instance: With the new no cooldown AOE hurricane, and having the directional low cool down AOE Typhoon, buffed with the new +30% damage talent and my full head to toe complete set of high tier arena purples I got almost 2 levels...
not questing...
but AOE grinding 2 to 3 HURDz of wildlife at once (thats 10-15 guys).
You ever kill 15 guys close to your level at the same time with any class before?
And then due to ridiculously huge healz have NO down time... hahahahahah its nuts.
And since I am in full PVP gear I have killed everything from lvl 80's (@ lvl 72 though I am nearly lvl 74 now) to killing 3 horde my level at the SAME time...
Like I said, druids are Sick atm.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:11 am

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Heya Pad. Its really got nothing to do with personal frustration. It has a lot to do with an overall viewpoint. I love my shammy and accept that he's on the top notch of getting ganked, which I've gotten used to. I expect a lot of my disheartenment has come down to the fact that WotLK offers nothing vibrant or new to keep my attention (and subscription fee).

I've run the DK a bit, but still the same 'go here and bring me x number of these then come back' type of quests. Clear this area then you can move to the next. Sure, I've got a load of blue gear and some cool spells, but its almost like Blizz said, 'Hey! here's a great new class! If you buy the expansion we'll give you one! Sure, the mechanics of the world remain the same, but he's one of the kick ass classes!' I'd prefer more balanced mechanics and a game offering more options for questing, dungeons, and customization rather than 'We haven't fixed any of the numerous complaints but instead give you a free overpowered toon!'

Sure, my shammy now has what seems to be infinite spell regen and power, that's nice and I really dug it for the first couple of hours. I like playing my shammy. I also have a 25+ druid who I loved and was looking forward to playing in the expansion, but after a few hours, I have no interest, even though I know he'll be uber powerful in the end, I'll just be running the same motions to get him there.

I've just lost my drive for WoW. I had it since the beta back in the UK, continued here in the US for the past 2 years and in all that time I've seen nothing really 'new' or 'innovative'. I've spent over $200 in software, not to mention the $500 or so in subscription costs in hopes that something new and exciting would happen, to no avail. I had hopes for WotLK, but, its the same exact game with a few new areas added that have the same play mechanics as the game I've been getting frustrated with.

So, before I drop any more cash into Blizz's pockets, I've gotta call it quits.

Going to stick with Warhammer for the moment. I've played 4 different races and 6 different classes, all seem balanced in their own ways.
The public questing gives much more opportunity to interact with folks around you and opens up some good convos. 2 new classes released this week, one in each faction, so they balance out, and both look most cool.
Plus I like the fact that most of the players seems much more mature than your average WoW player. For the time being it has my attention. After an hour of WoW I'm pissed off and frustrated. After an hour of WAR I'm still having fun and don't want to log off.

Oz

P.S. This post from 3 weeks back regarding WoW still stands (posted in 'WAR' forum), though I'm as bored with the PvE questing as I am with the PvP frustrations.
http://www.shatteredstar.org/forums/vie ... php?t=6396
As stated before, I'm hanging in for the SSX company, but at least I can still play WAR while logged into the WoW channel, so can still keep in touch :)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:24 am

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I feel ya m8,
largest draw for me and wow atm comes from friends and family, then it has some new stuff and sadly to say, time invested.
Until the WotLK I hadn't played WoW in months, I let it go.
As time goes by and Blizz keeps giving you less and less for your money and time,
It seriously does make it harder and harder to justify hitting that resub button.

Also forgot to mention at the end of my last post
that if I was going to recommend an MMO right now,
it would definately be Warhammer :thumb:


PS. My addiction to WoW mods is nuts, Warhammer needs to get more mods out for it... hehe... must resist downloading more in wow.
I can say I am doing better now tho, cuz I only have around 40 mods atm, instead of my former 100+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:22 am

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Just bought an Xbox 360 and an online gaming key. :)
Gonna try console for a while. When Sprites playing Fable II, I'll be running amok in WAR.
"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" George Bush, Jan. 11, 2000

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