Because I've got the Cyclops on the brain, below are the garbled, disjointed notes that I've cobbled together regarding possible builds for the mech over the past several weeks. They're presented in code tags, because it's a direct copy-paste from an un-word-wrapped text file, and I can't be bothered to sort out the line breaks and tab-stops in a properly-formatted forum post. The raw copy-paste job may also give a bit of insight into how my head works, when I get a first look at a chassis.
When I reference test builds, I used Smurphy's mech lab utility with a Mauler as a surrogate for the 10z, 11adc, and 11p builds. I'd slap in an XL250 to occupy the crit slots for the engine, note the weight difference between that engine and an XL400, and add weapons, ammo, and equipment until that difference was the tonnage free. The 10q test builds were a back-of-the-napkin quality pen-and-paper job, since there are no 90t Inner Sphere mechs with six or seven missile hardpoints. All builds assume the use of endo-steel internals, though I think one or two of the 10q builds would benefit from foregoing endo in favor of more open crit slots. That determination will have to wait until the mech is out or I get bored enough to redo those builds by hand.
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Cyclops ideas (pre-quirk announcement) Cyclops ideas (The quirk announcement changed nothing.) [STRIKE]Oh, hey.... Ghost heat 2.0 gets implemented in the same patch as introduces the Cyclops.[/STRIKE] Thankfully, PGI can't hit a deadline for shit. Alpha strikes over 30 damage get punished. That's *all* of these configs. * - ideas that can at least be slapped together Most of these ideas can be improved, since I didn't optimize crit slot usage. Might consider other engine options too. Ten tons separate the XL360 and the XL400. Armor shaving - 60pts on each arm; 32pts/ton - most builds can strip at least one arm Important things neglected: AC10 builds - particularly on brawlly 11p's. Skip the hero preorder - might buy for MC later - ballistics in both torsos (dual-Gauss stock) 2UAC5+AC5 w/ XL400 as an easy dakka build - plenty of space for ammo & 2 MLs/MPLs Skip/Sell the CYC11-a - in basic pack - redundant w/ CYC-11adc - unless you want to do a silly 3AC2 build XL400 acquired in summer grab bag event. XL400 speeds in 90t mech - 72kph w/o tweak & 77.4kph w/ tweak XL380 speeds - 68.4kph w/o tweak & 73.5 w/ tweak XL/STD360 speeds - 64.8kph w/o tweak & 69.7kph w/ tweak (One hex/turn walk spd is ~16.2kph run spd) Engine weights (vs. XL400) XL400 - 33.5t XL380 - 27.5t (06.0t less) XL360 - 23.5t (10.0t less) STD360 - 40.0t (06.5t more) Quirk Notes - Weapon quirks are pretty minimal. Torso has modest structure quirks, but those meaty legs have no durability buffs. A couple of chassis have Gauss quirks, so consider Gauss builds on those. CYC-11a - Gauss cooldown 10% CYC-10q - Missile heat gen 5% CYC-10z - AC20 velocity 10% & AC20 cooldown 5% CYC-11adc - Energy cooldown 10% & missile velocity 10% CYC-11p - Ballistic & energy range 10% & missile velocity 10% All - poop weapon quirks. CYC-11p - ECM, 4E, 2M, 2B - in reinforcement pack (endo & DHS stock) >* 2PPC+Gauss (3t ammo) 12DHS, ECM, & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS * PPC+2AC5 (5t ammo) 16DHS, ECM, & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS/weapons * AC20 (3.5t ammo)+4MPL 13DHS, ECM, & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS Possible swap of MPLs for SRMs (steps on 11adc's toes) >* UAC5+AC5 (5t ammo comb.) + 2ASRM4 (2t ammo) + 4ML, ECM, & 11DHS (armor: 16 HD, 58 legs, & 48 arms) Drop Art. for two more DHS? AC10+3LPL+ECM? - too heavy for an XL400, even w/ armor shave from UAC/AC5 build above XL395 - room for 11DHS * XL380 - room for 15DHS CYC-10q - 7 missile & 3 energy (2 usable) hardpoints - in basic pack - less able to test build 68.5t pod space w/ endo-steel & no engine or equipment >Splat (6 ASRM6) - some ammo in an arm will require DHS to critpad 33.5t for XL400 24t for launchers 6t minimum ammo; 10t prefered 4t in legs 1t in head 2t w/ 2DHS in each arm (4t total) 4t DHS in arms - too crit-starved - these can be shoved in the engine, but then there's no padding effect Aggressive armor shave to free another 2t - might come up short of crit space - yep 7 ALRM5 (3-5 ALRM5 may actually be optimal for chain firing - alt. 3&3 group fire) 33.5t for XL400 18t for launchers (6) 7t minimum ammo; 10t prefered 4t in legs 1t in head 2t w/ 2DHS in each arm (4t total) 4t DHS in arms 4t free for ??? ------------------------------------------ 6LRM5+3LL 33.5t for XL400 12t for launchers (6) 5t for ammo (head & legs - 900 damage) 15t for LLs (3) 3t for DHS ------------------------------------------ >LPLs & ALRM5s 33.5t for XL400 21t for LPLs (3) 9t for launchers (3) 4.5t ammo (head & legs only) 0.5t free for ??? Probably armor shave for some added DHS - 3LPLs will run hot >LPLs & SRM4s 33.5t for XL400 21t for LPLs (3) 8t for launchers (4) 4.5t ammo 1t head 3.5t legs 1.5t free for ??? LPLs & ASRM6s 33.5t for XL400 14t for LPLs (2) 12t for launchers (3) 4.5t ammo 1t head 3.5t legs 4.5t free for ??? Side stacking option: LPLs & DHS on right & SRMs on left - Arm can be stripped for more free tonnage CYC-10z - 6 energy, 2 missile, 1 ballistic torso - in basic pack AC20 (2.5t ammo)+6MPL & 10DHS - too hot & too short on ammo, even w/ armor shaving Drop 2-3 MPL for ammo & DHS * 3LPL+3ML & 21DHS - fills crits & weight * 3LPL+UAC5 (4t ammo) 11 DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/weapons/DHS Swap UAC5 in favor of an AC10? * 3LPL+ASRM6+ASRM4 (3t ammo) 14 DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/weapons >3LPL+Gauss - too heavy for XL400 -> XL380, weapons, 13DHS, & 3t ammo * 3LL+Gauss - common build on 80t chassis XL400, 3t ammo, 14DHS - armor shave - 12/18 on head, 64/76 on legs & 12/60 on left arm CYC-11adc - 2E, 4M, 2B - ballistic energy mix w/ more missiles than CYC-11a - in reinforcement pack >* AC20 (4t ammo)+4SRM4 (2.5t ammo) 12DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS I'd like another half ton of AC20 & one ton of SRM ammo > AC10 (3t ammo) + 3ASRM6 + 1ASRM4 (5.5t ammo) w/ XL400 & possible armor shaving * 2AC5 (4t ammo)+3ASRM6 (3t ammo) 10DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS * Gauss (3t ammo)+4ALRM5 (5t ammo) 10DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS * 2AC5 (5t ammo)+3ALRM5 (5t ammo) 10 DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS/launchers * AC10 (2.5t ammo)+4ALRM5 (4.5t ammo)+2ML, 12DHS & possible armor shaving for more ammo/DHS One less launcher saves three tons CYC-10z note on Gauss configs XL400 (77.4kph) - 3LL+Gauss+14DHS = 48% heat eff, 4.30 sustained DPS, & 42 dmg alpha > XL380 (73.5kph) - 3LPL+Gauss+13DHS = 43% heat eff, 4.74 sustained DPS, & 48 dmg alpha XL360 (69.7kph) - 3LPL+Gauss+17DHS = 53% heat eff, 5.84 sustained DPS, & 48 dmg alpha versus Zeus w/ XL380, 3LL+Gauss+13DHS -> 46% heat eff, 4.12 sustained DPS, 42 dmg alpha, & 82.7kph Note on CYC-11p & CYC11-adc dual-AC5 builds - possibly upgrade one AC5 to a UAC5, weight permitting Start w/ CYC-11adc AC20/SRM build or AC10/SRM build For four highlighted variants Cost of DHS upgrade -> 4.5mil Cost of endo -> 2.7mil Cost of ferro dg -> 0.2mil Cost of XL380s -> 6.2mil Total 13.6mil Engines - STD360 (40.0t) for AC20 builds & XL400 (33.5t) for everything else, except where otherwise noted.
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I've updated the notes again.[/edit]
The worst part about the 10q is that a pure SRM build will have to be named SplatPlops.